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Post by Revolutionary Workers' Union on Jun 4, 2012 13:02:27 GMT -5
"We understand your concern. Unfortunately, we cannot yet trust the Esharans enough to justify even a Mutual Defense Pact. Their faith in the so-called 'free market' of corporate authoritarianism and their continued involvement with the hated practice of slavery is worrying, to say the least.
"Perhaps, in the meantime, we could agree to the terms of an Alliance and MDP in secret? The treaties would become official and public after the end of the war. Would this be acceptable?"
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Post by Dronav Holdworlds on Jun 4, 2012 13:46:46 GMT -5
Gesh shook his head slowly. "I'm sorry but secret pacts go against my grain, though I would be glad to formally agree to talk about such things once the war is won. As of now I can say in full earnest that if the RWU need our aid in fighting the Graal or their allies we will stand with you until the end." He struck his hardwood cane against the floor as if in punctuation. "For now we ask to create bonds through trade."
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Post by Revolutionary Workers' Union on Jun 4, 2012 13:56:02 GMT -5
"This is acceptable," Jensen acquiesced. "Furthermore, I believe it would be prudent for each of our nations to construct an embassy in the other's. My sister, Viipuruz'dur Hjaeger Aada, has already requested permission to act as Ambassador to the Dronav Holdworlds in such an event."
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Post by Dronav Holdworlds on Jun 4, 2012 14:08:06 GMT -5
"Of course that would be no trouble at all. Would it be acceptable if the Holdworlds embassy was based in Viipuruz'dur rather than the capital, I understand this is non traditional but with the attitudes of many who have recently gained power in our nation it may be easier on everyone if we were stationed in the hold." Gresh had a slightly embarrassed look with the implication of the FHA and their problems with non-Dronavi.
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Post by Revolutionary Workers' Union on Jun 4, 2012 14:25:49 GMT -5
"This is perfectly acceptable," Jensen assured Gresh. "The RWU is already accustomed to providing the maximum culturally-shared ground in negotiations. We have consistently sent Esharan humans to negotiate with Eshara, Centricus to negotiate with the UCLC before its sudden convulsions of late, and -let us remember- a Dronav to negotiate with the Holdworlds.
"One last note, and this concerns the Revolutionary Hold in its own policy. We welcome and encourage immigration as well as cultural media from the Holdworlds. In fact, we would greatly appreciate the wiring of Holdworlds radio and television to Viipuruz'dur, from which it can be relayed throughout the RWU. This would require regular investment, but would do much to enhance not only cultural life in our city, but to enhance the rich culture of the RWU as a whole.
If your current authorities will allow it, we would also be happy to wire our own media to the Holdworlds."*
*Request is for investment of 1 INFLUENCE by the Dronav Holdworlds in the RWU and vice-versa.
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Post by Dronav Holdworlds on Jun 4, 2012 15:00:05 GMT -5
"That would be quite acceptable. I will request that work on a relay start without delay."
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Post by Revolutionary Workers' Union on Jun 4, 2012 20:21:58 GMT -5
"That is good to hear," affirmed Jensen with a respectful nod.
"Now, I am curious. You seem to be an intelligent and perceptive fellow, not to mention that you are a Dronav of extensive traveling. You've been on the maglevs and the walkways here, so you've seen the banners and heard the speeches. Tell me, what are your thoughts on the upcoming election?"
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Post by Dronav Holdworlds on Jun 4, 2012 20:40:43 GMT -5
"Hmm.. I've always held with the idea that each hold should be it's own state working to the greater good of our combined governments, our people have lived in this manner for thousands of years. Though I'll admit this one government idea is quite interesting. It would certainly solve a few issues." He leaned back in his chair, his eye twinkled in the unique way only those of great age can manage when they're starting in on a debate.
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Post by Revolutionary Workers' Union on Jun 4, 2012 21:26:08 GMT -5
"Diplomatically put," commented the Council member to the left of Jensen, amused at Gresh's ambiguous response, and perhaps at her own pun. "What about the UCP's Greater Cooperative ideology intrigues you so?"
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Post by Dronav Holdworlds on Jun 4, 2012 21:52:48 GMT -5
"Well mostly the idea that a government is needed to preform duties that any self respecting clan or guild would do to protect it's members. Almost speaks to a flawed social system when one's own family and fellow tradesmen have to be forced by law to do what any right thinking should do on principle."
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Post by Revolutionary Workers' Union on Jun 4, 2012 22:14:31 GMT -5
"I appreciate you giving us incumbents such credit," Jensen replied. The current Council was all Viipuruz'dur Party, and it certainly was no insult to them to hear the Communists put down.
"However, we should recognize the Communist ideology for what it is, and not for a simplistic caricature. They hold dearly to civil liberties, and would not dare to abolish family or many other such institutions. It is only the economic sphere they wish to centralize; one could think of it more as expanding the guild to encompass the state than expanding the state to encompass the guild."
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Post by Dronav Holdworlds on Jun 4, 2012 22:23:06 GMT -5
"So the machinist guild knows how the goldsmith guild should do business? The butchers should stick their noses in the doings of the healers? Seems silly to me that everyone should be able to interfere with everyone else."
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Post by Revolutionary Workers' Union on Jun 5, 2012 13:25:57 GMT -5
"The Communists would reply that this notion of 'interference' is the same principle of individualism applied to the guild. It assumes a narrow conception of how much people can work together. They seek not to impose on all, but for all to cooperate.
"Being a part of the same cooperative firm, after all, does not preclude specialization, just as even within the machinist guilds there are many tasks given each to a different specialist. Why not combine our efforts on a larger scale, pooling together the revenue of farmers with those of industrial workers and professionals for the benefit of the entire Hold? Why should the machinists make decisions about farm equipment manufacturing without the democratic imput of the farmers? Or the farmers distribute without the democratic input of the machinists?
Of course, we of the Council reject such notions. Yet, we also respect our opponents and acknowledge the complexity and validity of much of what they have to say."
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Post by Dronav Holdworlds on Jun 5, 2012 14:08:27 GMT -5
"Of course which is why we can have a civilized discussion rather than yelling insults across the room like one of the FHA demagogues that seem to have infested holds of High Hroth." The elderly man stretched slightly theatrically. "If you excuse me, my age seems to catching up with me and all this good conversation has tuckered me out. If we could sign our trade agreement now I think I'm quite ready for a nap. Though I'd be more than willing to continue such discussion at a later time."
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Post by Revolutionary Workers' Union on Jun 5, 2012 18:04:01 GMT -5
"Of course. Perhaps you could even head the embassy here when the time comes, and then we'll have no shortage of opportunities to chat."
RWU and Dronav Holdworlds agree to Indefinite Trade and investment of 1 INFLUENCE by each nation in the other.
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